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  • whiskeyhammer95

    Basically, I'm not into the "right" kind of industrial for Trash, I guess. Oh well.

    februari 2014
  • whiskeyhammer95

    "I like how you use bootlegs as a credible source" Who are the LLN?

    februari 2014
  • whiskeyhammer95

    Bottom line, I like abrasive/harsh/dark/heavy music, whatever it's stripe.

    februari 2014
  • whiskeyhammer95

    "LOL WHAT" No Wave was a reaction to the accessiblity of New Wave. And you still have ignored Boyd Rice being so essential to industrial music.

    februari 2014
  • whiskeyhammer95

    Belonging to a "scene", what good does it do besides give the sheep some kind of identity? I have no interest in the drug-fueled dance side of electronic music.

    februari 2014
  • spineshank155

    " " I just don't lke faggoty dancy/dark electro 'industrrial'." You misspelt Industrial. You also mispelt revival. " LMAO! The hell kind of browser are you using? ROFL, even Internet Explorer now fixes misspelled words. I like how Trash has become the spelling Nazi, but Trash you missed one "lke". That was a good laugh though. I see the thrash metal shoutbox has been hijacked by industrial music, first annual reports, nuns, biker dudes and quality cheese.

    februari 2014
  • Trash73

    And your hipster accusations are truly amusing. How do you quantify that? >>> A hipster belongs to no scene so they sit at coffee shops on their macbooks browsing Indie review websites & blogs and stroking their neck beards. They have no scene or no where else to go because they listen to post-contemporary music or different music that no one has heard of. Hipsters have no soul - where are the vocal melodies of the bands you listen to, oh right that would make them too mainstream right? Hipsters have no passion about anything that isn't Indie and are incredibly anti-mainstream (as you are with your dance music comments on Dark Electro.) Dance music would create a community of people right? Communities are too mainstream. Too many people gathering together. Dark Electro spawns from Industrial, and more significantly from the Goth club scene, which wouldn't exist now without the original EBM / Industrial dance floor. Dancing is too mainstream, right?

    februari 2014
  • Trash73

    So is early Swans & Cut Hands but I'm sure as hell that wasn't the intent of the said artists to create dance music. >>> Did I say that? I was talking strictly about EBM.

    februari 2014
  • Trash73

    listen to 1st Annual Report and shut your face >>> I like how you use bootlegs as a credible source.

    februari 2014
  • Trash73

    "general spirit" as in >>Fuck Music.<< LOL WHAT?

    februari 2014
  • Trash73

    "didn't I just mention Boyd Rice/NON?" No you said. "If anything, it's more akin to tape music, musique concrète, punk and psychedelic rock." 1. I've heard many attribute Punk to Grunge, Metal, Screamo, Emo and even Goth. Some of those may be accurate but Punk gets way to much credit for everything. 2. Listing genres and artists/projects is pointless unless you elaborate. I could learn from from reading Wiki than I have from you.

    februari 2014
  • whiskeyhammer95

    "general spirit" as in Fuck Music. "20 Jazz FUNK greats." You think that is a coincidence?" listen to 1st Annual Report and shut your face. "just list genres that mean absolutely nothing in the context of Industrial." didn't I just mention Boyd Rice/NON?

    februari 2014
  • Trash73

    "And yes, I don't like dancy type music, it needs to either be harsh & abrasive or atmospheric for me to enjoy." >>> Modern EBM is harsh and abrasive, what do you think it is techno music or something? It has a lot of distortion that is extremely difficult to imitate and craft. It's not just the case of reverb turn up bass, then add distortion. EBM even has distorted vocals, especially the terror EBM bands. It's a testament to their talents that EBM artists can create music with those qualities and make it danceable. Very few artists can make music both extreme and accessible.

    februari 2014
  • Trash73

    "rofl, industrial came from the same general spirit as No Wave, just took different approaches. If anything, it's more akin to tape music, musique concrète, punk and psychedelic rock." >>> I would have expected something as wishy-washy and as that from a hipster. You dabble around the point and sit on the fence and just list genres that mean absolutely nothing in the context of Industrial. "General spirit" aye? What does this even mean? Nu Metal took the 'general spirit' from Metal, Hip-Hop, Grunge, Industrial, Funk and many other genres but the bands have frequently distanced themselves any scene. A general spirit means absolutely jack when quantifying music. If you want to look at what I consider Industrial then the links are there with Funk - certainly with early EBM, Ministry and Thrill Kill Kult. Throbbing Gristle even had an album called "20 Jazz FUNK greats." You think that is a coincidence?

    februari 2014
  • whiskeyhammer95

    EBM sucks, btw, that's why bands like Whitehouse saw where that was going & went the other way with it. "Whitehouse emerged as earlier industrial acts such as Throbbing Gristle and SPK were pulling back from noise and extreme sounds and embracing relatively more conventional musical genres. In opposition to this trend, Whitehouse wanted to take these earlier groups' sounds and fascination with extreme subject matter even further"

    februari 2014
  • whiskeyhammer95

    "It is danceable because it is rhythm based music." So is early Swans & Cut Hands but I'm sure as hell that wasn't the intent of the said artists to create dance music. And your hipster accusations are truly amusing. How do you quantify that?

    februari 2014
  • whiskeyhammer95

    And yes, I don't like dancy type music, it needs to either be harsh & abrasive or atmospheric for me to enjoy.

    februari 2014
  • whiskeyhammer95

    "A revival happens when all the early, popular bands are past their best (as in Thrash Metal) and some modern bands try to get the scene going again. They do not lack the spirit at all." all these party-pizza thrash bands tell a different story. "Besides, Industrial came from Funk." rofl, industrial came from the same general spirit as No Wave, just took different approaches. If anything, it's more akin to tape music, musique concrète, punk and psychedelic rock.

    februari 2014
  • Trash73

    (con.) Besides, Industrial came from Funk. Early Ministry and Thrill Kill Kult was influenced by funk as displayed with their groovy basslines and guitar riffs and Al of Ministry's very specific vocal technique. Industrial it very hard, distorted and harsh funk due to the fact both Funk and (proper) Industrial music has the count on the first subdivision of the beat. Play a funk beat through a synthesizer, as per here and it's similar to the 'dancy/dark electro industrial' you mentioned. It is danceable because it is rhythm based music. Proper Industrial is anyway. Not whiskeyhammer95's hipster crap. Look at how Limp Bizkit turns a Ministry classic into a 'jumpdafuckup' bouncy, groovy riff with "Thieves".

    februari 2014
  • Trash73

    "Anyways, almost all musical revivial movements suck, simply because they lack the spirit of the earlier generation & are just imitating the forerunners... "Suicide Commando has been going since the 80s and still releasing high quality material. I'd hardly call him or the EBM Industrial scene a revival. Agonoize and Mordacious all the other great EBM projects are from varying generations. You're a fuck*n idiot. A revival happens when all the early, popular bands are past their best (as in Thrash Metal) and some modern bands try to get the scene going again. They do not lack the spirit at all.

    februari 2014
  • whiskeyhammer95

    Anyways, almost all musical revivial movements suck, simply because they lack the spirit of the earlier generation & are just imitating the forerunners. Same could be said for a lot of newer powerviolence and OSDM revival bands.

    februari 2014
  • whiskeyhammer95

    I don't feel the need to autistically scrobble everything I listen to. Like Godflesh, don't care for Ministry, love The Axis of Perdition & Gnaw Their Tongues. Also, "Boyd Rice, NON, The Grey Wolves, Whitehouse, Sutcliffe Jugend, Blood Axis, SPK, Cut Hands," yeah, real hipster up in here. I just don't lke faggoty dancy/dark electro 'industrrial'.

    februari 2014
  • Trash73

    @whiskeyhammer95: No Ministry, no Godflesh, and the only Industrial Metal band you have (Nailbomb) is 90% Thrash Metal so this disproves my point how? All those bands are typical of a hipster's taste and not a Metalhead's taste.

    februari 2014
  • whiskeyhammer95

    "One day Metalheads will grew up and rather than listening to the same choppy, high tempo Thrash riffs, will instead learn to appreciate the speedy tempos of bepop Jazz when relaxing and smoking high quality tobacco in a pipe. Get out of your denim jacket laden with patches and into a tailored suit and kick back to some Miles Davis. Your life sure will improve and society will think better of you" how's that fedora fit?

    februari 2014
  • whiskeyhammer95

    ". Logically though, if you enjoyed Industrial Metal then shouldn't you equally enjoy or at least look to expand to some Industrial? Whenever I look at Metalhead's charts this is never the case." "I'm into black metal, grindcore, industrial, experimental and hardcore, including: Death in June, Capitalist Casualties, Swans, Assück, Joy Division, Whitehouse, Deiphago, Man's Gin, Boyd Rice, ACxDC, Blood Axis, Discharge, Doom, Anal Cunt, Kreng, Non, Brujeria, Minor Threat, Nailbomb, Carnivore, Soundgarden, Tragedy, Black Flag, Death Grips, Repulsion, Red House Painters, Blasphemy, Agalloch, Revenge, The Grey Wolves, Big Black, Autopsy, Sarcófago, Admiral Angry, S.O.D., Napalm Death, Saint Vitus, Dead Kennedys, 40 Watt Sun, Amebix, Insect Warfare, Root, Xasthur, Profanatica, The Exploited, Carcass, His Hero Is Gone, Wreck and Reference, Deicide, Alice in Chains."

    februari 2014
  • whiskeyhammer95

    "lol 10,884 Thrash bands of the new millennium and maybe a handful (Evile, Warbringer, Bonded By Blood, Municipal Waste etc.) actually broke through. Proof that Thrash Metal is not only shit but the scene is incredibly over diluted." rofl, no disagreement on the 2nd part, but Vomitor, Withaven and company rips.

    februari 2014
  • whiskeyhammer95

    "(Overkill, Testament, Kreator) kicks the shit out of most stuff put out by the revival bands." certainly not Kreator's new stuff.

    februari 2014
  • Eliallday

    the big Teutonic 4 (Kreator, Destruction, Sodom, and Tankard) is better than the american verison of the big 4.

    februari 2014
  • Sematriux

    Hey guys, please give http://www.last.fm/music/Eternally+Enthroned?ac=eternally%20ent a listen

    januari 2014
  • PincheEdy

    http://thunderdemon.bandcamp.com

    januari 2014
  • Trash73

    lol 10,884 Thrash bands of the new millennium and maybe a handful (Evile, Warbringer, Bonded By Blood, Municipal Waste etc.) actually broke through. Proof that Thrash Metal is not only shit but the scene is incredibly over diluted.

    januari 2014
  • N01s3mak3r

    I Think... the 00' or 10' decade are the "New Wave Of Thrash Metal/Crossover"

    december 2013
  • Trash73

    "You can't believe in shit that out there unless you're nuts or stupid." Or you are a Christian who was a drunk & strung out on heroin for much of his playing career. I'm sure the combination of both of those factors can cause some pretty delusional thoughts.

    november 2013
  • Trash73

    @spineshank155: The Thrash Metal fanbase as a whole is pretty normal though - some hard drugs used - but not many people with 'something wrong with them.' I think mental problems stem from high levels of creativity and Thrash is contrast is a formulaic genre. The lyrics on war, social and political issues, with some almost occasional shock value (e.g. Pleasure To Kill) hardly reflect those with warped, twisted and extremist views. Mind you, one could argue Dave Mustaine has some ridiculous opinions and ideologies. Having said that, Thrash is quite a safe genre on the whole, and a stepping stone onto Black or Death Metal. I wouldn't have got into BM as heavily if it wasn't for Thrash (Immortal and Nargaroth have quite a lot of Thrash riffs (and obviously Venom, Destroyer 666, Desaster etc.) Thrash just doesn't satisfy me these days - no where near as punishing or emotionally moving as Nargaroth, Nocturnal Depression, Blasphemy, Coldworld etc.

    november 2013
  • spineshank155

    I 've seen single genre profiles, pop, rock, country, ect.. To me it doesn't matter what you listen to/what genres you only like (even if it's one). If all the metal you like/listen to are satan/mutilation/death then maybe something is wrong, but if it keeps a person from actually going out killing or being a douchebag all the time then it shouldn't matter. When i was younger i used to like electronic and rock music and a bit of rap. I stopped once i started getting into more metal (other than Metallica, Iron Maiden, Pantera and nu metal) it just took over my listening habits. Though i had a lot of anger, frustration and really no way of releasing it in a positive way. I still get angry and frustrated but not as bad. Since listening to metal i have been able to control those emotions better though flooding my ears with the most extreme stuff i can find doesn't usually work the way i'd like it to so i normally won't listen to that unless i want to punch someone or something lol.

    november 2013
  • xVictimOfADownx

    v Good point, but still seems odd to me personally. I guess I got really into industrial before I got really into metal (before I started scrobbling obviously) so I guess I had a different entry point than a lot of metalheads.

    november 2013
  • xVictimOfADownx

    "Different music serves different purposes, and if you are truly at ease with yourself and are able to regulate your emotion healthily, then you will be able to appreciate many different styles at music." True, and I also do agree that it's odd that a lot of industrial metal fans don't actually look up industrial music often. With all this in mind, I don't see how having a preference for a specific style of music to listen to frequently and consistently more often than others is a bad thing either. It seems to me with especially the internet age there can be to much focus at times on large expansive tastes and focus on diversity, instead of a really solidified passion for any one-kind of music.

    november 2013
  • jonowev

    If you can't circle pit then it's not music

    november 2013
  • Trash73

    @UltimateBotcher: I am not 'trolling.' I am given my honest views. Trolling would be 'you have such narrow interests by only listening to Metal / Thrash Metal and therefore you should probably be tested for autism." I understand of course that even within Thrash Metal there is a lot of variation in styles and sound (mostly from the ratio of HxC to Metal in their music) and within Metal there are many fusion genres with scopes of influence from outside sources. Logically though, if you enjoyed Industrial Metal then shouldn't you equally enjoy or at least look to expand to some Industrial? Whenever I look at Metalhead's charts this is never the case.

    november 2013
  • Trash73

    @dark_wisdom: Sticking to one genre shows (at least in my mind) a sign of low levels of emotional intelligence, maturity and creativity. The "only Metal is good & Metal is forever" mindset only really appealed to me as a teenager and as your emotions mature then you begin to realize there is more to life than the thrill of listening to Metal. Instead of a palette of many colours you are nothing but one bland colour, when the very essence and point of music was to create many pictures with that palette. Different music serves different purposes, and if you are truly at ease with yourself and are able to regulate your emotion healthily, then you will be able to appreciate many different styles at music. Of course, music has different life spans of enjoyment. For me, Pop music has a very short life span of enjoyment compared with Goth / Metal but to write Pop music off as worthless would show an elitist attitude and I wouldn't be truly honest with myself.

    november 2013
  • dark_wisdom

    I don't know what's so wrong with staying with metal anyway, if you really think listening to metal all day makes you stupid, well, guess what, you're already stupid and the point of toxic griever is absolutely valid, metal is one of the most diverse genres of music and I doubt it could have been possible without the inclusion of external influences to the genre.

    november 2013
  • spineshank155

    I haven't heard Sonata Arctica's cover of 'The Wind Beneath My Wings" (i'll check it out over the weekend). I know those are entry level pop songs they did & those bands most likely did it for a laugh, i wanted to point out that some metalheads (and bands) do try to go outside the scope of metal but i have also seen plenty that stay within metal.

    november 2013
  • Trash73

    @ToxicGriever: Where is the hXc in Slayer's Show No Mercy, Megadeth & Testament?

    november 2013
  • Trash73

    @spineshank155: Sonata Arctica's cover of "The Wind Beneath My Wings" is easily the best Pop cover by a Metal band. It actually suits the band's typical style quite well and doesn't sound forced or out of place as most 'cross-genre' covers do. Anyway, I fail to see how Britney Spears (Bodom), Backstreet Boys (Mors Principium Est and Whispered) are beyond beginner's entry to Pop. Maybe something a bit more intellectual in the realms of Pop - along the lines of Il Divo?

    november 2013
  • spineshank155

    I've met metalheads of all types and there are more than you think that go outside the scope of metal/rock. I like to chill with some folk or some easy electronic music or whatever (my charts don't always reflect that, but there is some moments that were caught). No metal included. Then there are some bands that do pop covers such as this, this, and this. Though they are all metal versions of those songs but to me it shows that at least not all metal bands hate that stuff. Can't wait til one of them has enough balls to cover a Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus or One Direction song.

    november 2013
  • dark_wisdom

    v You must be one hell of a successful man, avoiding listening to metal and all that shit.

    november 2013
  • Trash73

    Pretty simple but effective logic. All that energy channelled into such fast and aggressive music could be channelled else where and therefore improving your mental capacity.

    november 2013
  • dark_wisdom

    "Your life sure will improve and society will think better of you" My life indeed will improve when I start listening to X musical genre and stop listening to Y musical genre. That's some pretty simple logic right there.

    november 2013
  • Trash73

    @ToxicGriever: Implying Metalhead's get deep into any genre (besides Metal) to look past the beginner's guide to other genres.

    november 2013
  • Trash73

    One day Metalheads will grew up and rather than listening to the same choppy, high tempo Thrash riffs, will instead learn to appreciate the speedy tempos of bepop Jazz when relaxing and smoking high quality tobacco in a pipe. Get out of your denim jacket laden with patches and into a tailored suit and kick back to some Miles Davis. Your life sure will improve and society will think better of you. http://www.last.fm/group/I+hate+Metalheads

    november 2013