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  • JamesPhillips70

    I don't get what the comments are about, lol, nu metal and glam metal are 20-30 years old , no trendiness here even if you wished it was that way, music is a constantly changing thing, i couldn't tell you if it was a social pressure, if you're like me (billy no-mates) it's irrelevant , when you put headphones on, it's only one person listening, any kind of rock-metal you will not hear it in a club, on radio or anywhere else other than concert or at home or on the go like walking down the street, the truth here is no one really cares what someone else is listening to, we only care about the people who make the music, popular or not

    fredag eftermiddag
  • spineshank155

    I never had that problem with that. There was a period where i was a nu metal hater, but it was mostly due to lack of knowledge there are other styles of metal out there. Plus many nu metal bands would release one good release and that's pretty much it. The rest were either ok, mediocre or bad. Neither are really good excuses either, i realize that now and there are nu metal bands that i do still like, Dry Kill Logic, Spineshank, Mushroomhead, Mudvayne, Reveille ill Nino, ect.. that have released a set of good releases (well IIRC Revelle is still disbanded). There isn't anything wrong with liking trendy stuff though i prefer to listen to stuff i like so im constantly exploring new artists, if it's good no matter what genre it is that's what counts.

    torsdag kväll
  • L57NT

    Most of the hate is just because of discomfort from the fact that nobody cares about your favorite music while almost everybody likes trendy stuff.

    onsdag eftermiddag
  • spineshank155

    What i find hilarious is that when people hate on nu metal, metalcore or deathcore and they try to tell people to listen to 'true metal' bands that are just as hated on. Look at Dimmu Borgir, Cradle of Filth, Metallica, Pantera, Manowar ect.. and see how much hate those bands get from metalheads.

    tisdag kväll
  • spineshank155

    Oddly enough there's some lists out there that have nu metal in their lists such as this and Korn is in this list. Metal is an umbrella tag so naturally it would show nu metal bands or whatever is the most tagged (or most popular?) and heavy metal was already ruined by the popularity of glam metal, but i think that sparked the idea of subgenres such as death metal and black metal. Most of the hate, imo is because of the mentality that it's cool (or some sort of obligation) to disrespect what you don't like or hate which was originally brought on by metal elitists. You can enjoy traditional metal or it's sub genres (or just listen to whichever you prefer) in which case i consider nu metal to be in with the subgenre of metal or at least a part of it.

    tisdag kväll
  • 29700761

    Post rock, pot-punk, post-grunge, post-indie, pos-eso. Lista que recorre la música “post” (más o menos veinte añitos) desde la óptica más bailable y cañera. Como siempre, se recomienda poner a toda hostia. https://playlistspotify.wordpress.com/2015/04/16/post-rock/

    11 dagar sedan
  • fab_community

    lol, good point

    11 dagar sedan
  • Velvet_Myx

    Just look at the METAL tag here on last.fm http://www.last.fm/tag/metal In the top 8 there's SOAD, Slipknot, Marilyn Manson, Disturbed and Korn. All these bands are generally disliked among the "true metal"-people. WE WON, METAL NOW MEANS MARILYN MANSON, DEAL WITH IT.

    12 dagar sedan
  • Velvet_Myx

    Nu metal is not a metal subgenre. [2] I wish more people would realize this. So many retards would stay away from commenting how nu metal is not metal if it was called something else. Most of the hatred towards nu metal comes from bitter defeated souls, because their precious "metal" genre was utterly destroyed and mutilated by the mainstream success of nu metal.

    12 dagar sedan
  • CriticalSwitch

    Nu metal is not a metal subgenre. In its proper form it was far better than any metal subgenre. And many artists who were labeled as "nu metal" representatives don't like this term because of the word "metal" in it. My favourites are Slipknot's first 2 albums, first 3 albums by Deftones, the first album by Korn, everything by Soulfly and Static-X. I don't like commercial representatives of this genre, but I still like how they raped and buried so-called traditional "metal culture".

    26 dagar sedan
  • LiamRandolph

    This genre really does have an unfortunate reputation. Yes, it did indeed become horribly commercialized during the early 00s, spawning a huge wave of crappy bands trying to ride the bandwagon. But it wasn't the genre's fault; it was the music industry's. Back in the late 90s when it first started taking form it was seen as just another metal genre, and at the end of the day that's all it ever was. But now it's seen as being responsible for the "death" of trve metal because it just so happened to appear in the wrong place at the wrong time. That's fine if you don't like it because you're entitled to your own opinion, but if you're going to form an opinion about any music it should be based on the music itself and not on its community or its impact on the industry. I've seen a lot of former industrial metal bands that I love start gearing towards nu metal, but, while I largely prefer industrial metal, that has no influence on my opinion of nu metal itself. I still like both genres.

    senaste månaden
  • FastWheels

    @xGunmetalAngel--Deathcore also has a lot of wiggers

    senaste månaden
  • Akatsuki_Dei

    I like the genre. Disturbed is great, what's not to like.

    senaste månaden
  • xGunmetalAngel

    It's no wigger's last hope. Ever heard of slam death metal? Tons of wiggers over there.

    senaste månaden
  • PetitSagittaire

    Wiggers' last hope.

    februari 2015
  • chino_moreno22

    i don't get why there is tag nu metal and tag nu-metal

    december 2014
  • Lsm1995

    Evanescence, really? they only have nu metal influencies on their song "Bring me to Life"!

    december 2014
  • CriticalSwitch

    Slipknot were far better than SOAD.

    december 2014
  • LCDnewOrder

    Real talk, Nu Metal wasn't as bad as people make it out to be. But there were plenty of terrible bands in the scene (Limp Bizkit, Slipknot, etc.) and the good ones (Deftones, SOAD) got drowned out by all the crap. In a way, I'm glad people are re-assessing the genre now from a different perspective.

    december 2014
  • abipolarninja

    It's like the local non-classic rock station, but as a tag! It's got almost all the bands I love to hate. Fuck you korn and slipknot. Fuck you papa roach for me liking a song of yours as a child, chances are that you are right the world is better without you. It's like I'm a kid in a candy store, but with things to hate instead of candy. :'D thanks for whoever ironically tagged funeral mist, you've brought much catharsis to my jaded heart <3

    december 2014
  • spineshank155

    Traditional/metalhead elitists are generally l haters when artists experiment with metal, a classic example here Babymetal. The funny thing is, isn't there some traditional heavy metal bands that actually like nu metal and/or the experimentation with metal? It doesn't stop though with metalheads hating nu metal (it was widely bashed during the myspace days), there's also metalheads bashing on Metallica, Megadeth, Cradle of Filth and Dimmu Borgir. Plenty of other bands but i think these people have nothing better to do than to hate on popular bands or whatever it is they feel is necessary. Oh and also Children of Bodom. These metalheads on myspace was typing stuff like, "why are you listening to nu metal junk, listen to Dimmu Borgir or Children of Bodom!" Then you got people on last.fm bashing Bodom for being generic. It doesn't stop at metalcore or deathcore either. "As I Lay Dying are for pussies". It's a vicious cycle.

    december 2014
  • Velvet_Myx

    Nu metal is about real things in real life, most of the "true metal" is about imaginary things and fairytales. I think the reason so many metalheads hate nu metal, is because the genre name has the word "metal" in it. If it was called something else, metalheads wouldn't have to feel like their precious genre of music is being raped by people like Fred Durst. Any of the arguments presented by metalheads don't have any value since it's all just excuses to cover up their insecurity about their selves and how they need their "metal" culture to feel important and/or loved. Of course not all metalheads are like this, but most of them are.

    december 2014
  • FactoryConnor

    @spineshank155 The Satanist tag has been overused, and I agree that some nu metal adolescent themes such as bad parents, rape, alienation, and alienation, is way more mature than "HAIL SATAN, BR00TAL!". Another nu metal band I think is political is Ill Nino at times.

    december 2014
  • spineshank155

    Probably not political but i always found "Play God" from Spineshank to be political. Same with Mushroomhead. Neither band is most likely political (neither are the songs) but it really depends on what you think or hear to be political. Come to think about it i wonder why nu metal hasn't been that big in talking about politics. >>> "In my humble opinion, the whole "HAIL SATAN & I'M SO BRUTAL" is more childish than some of the adolescent themes in Nu metal." <<< Deicide and it's master satanist Glen Benton is just laughably insane. I don't know if what he does is a joke (or that he really does have an inverted cross on his forehead) but i agree; most of the satanist crap themes is nonsense, overrated and it's the most unoriginal theme in metal.

    december 2014
  • FactoryConnor

    Sort of political, but AHC can be political at times.

    december 2014
  • FactoryConnor

    I write political songs btw. In the future I wish to plant them onto a band, that I would make.

    december 2014
  • Trash73

    "Writing a song about not wanting to talk about politics is kinda political in itself, because it means unhappiness about the political options available at the time." >>> Not necessarily (particularly given the final lyric.) It is clear from this interview that J.D has a political view but he doesn't have in depth knowledge about politics. Regardless, KoRn is not really a political band. J.D. just likes to have a few digs at Obama by surmising ridiculous theories ["Spike In My Veins"] and digs at The Whitehouse "House of Shame" [from "Illuminati".] As I said, there are barely any political themed Nu Metal songs. Velvet_Myx had to dig pretty deep and use a broad definition of politics to come up with examples.

    december 2014
  • Stormfisk

    Also: THIS!

    november 2014
  • Stormfisk

    Writing a song about not wanting to talk about politics is kinda political in itself, because it means unhappiness about the political options available at the time.

    november 2014
  • Trash73

    "Don't want to talk about politics / Don't preach or talk about politics / Don't make me talk about politics / Don't give a shit about politics" "Polotics", Korn

    november 2014
  • Velvet_Myx

    I think there's quite a lot of political/anti-consumerism/anti-religion/"world-leaders-suck" themed songs in the world of Nu Metal. Korn has a few tracks, like Hypocrites. Disturbed has a lot. Nothingface has a kind of satirical anti-american approach on their Skeletons album. CLAWFINGER is super political on every album. Genuflect too. I think The Union Underground and POD count into that category at least a little as well. Even Papa Roach has their "Between Angels and Insects" hit song! Just pointing this stuff out, for anyone looking for that kind of themed bands, not to argue with anyone.

    november 2014
  • Trash73

    Excluding System Of A Down, there are barely any political themed Nu Metal songs (which is strange given what an impact Rage Against the Machine had on the genre.)

    november 2014
  • FactoryConnor

    Nu Metal lyrics can range from political themes, bad childhood themes, teenage alienation, or something totally random.

    november 2014
  • Trash73

    In my humble opinion, the whole "HAIL SATAN & I'M SO BRUTAL" is more childish than some of the adolescent themes in Nu metal. I'm not denying, a lot of bands are heavily into the occult and don't rip of their lyrical themes and ideas from horror movies (Carcass and their medical terms) but some of the lyrics present in Extreme Metal are so childishly brain dead.

    november 2014
  • Trash73

    "Nu metal was simply heavier and had more interesting and less childish ideas than anything that has been happening to traditional metal since early 70s Black Sabbath." YEP. Plus extreme Metal is only interesting because it borrows a lot from Punk. Just listen to Celtic Frost's early material and note the D-beat drumming. In fact 1st wave Grindcore's punky leanings are closely related to 1st wave Black Metal's punky phrasing. Furthermore, listen to some early Finnish Black Metal, and the grimey textures & the frenzied, dissonant riffs are reminiscent of Grindcore (Archgoat, Impaled Nazarene.) Extreme Metal owes a lot to Discharge and Hardcore Punk.

    november 2014
  • Alarus-Lar

    Linkin Park? Papa Roach? WTF?

    november 2014
  • FactoryConnor

    Great genre, it blew music away, and it is one of the few things that keep us alive! This music can talk political sometimes, and influence some good change, on the other side of music, the popular stuff today rots peoples brains and slaughters them.

    november 2014
  • pleymo

    Yes sir! Nu metal wipes the floor with all those dreadful 'traditional metal' subgeners combined all together! That's exactly what i think...always had and always will!

    november 2014
  • CriticalSwitch

    Pretty sure I'm not the first who states that nu metal wipes the floor with any traditional metal subgenre. Nu metal was simply heavier and had more interesting and less childish ideas than anything that has been happening to traditional metal since early 70s Black Sabbath. Under "traditional metal" I obviously imply all these conservative and dull metal subgenres such as heavy metal, power metal, glam/hair metal, thrash metal, death metal and so on.

    november 2014
  • Stormfisk

    Downthesun doesn't have much clean singing.

    november 2014
  • pleymo

    I'd say Ektomorf...it's still pretty subjective if they're actually 'nu metal' or not, but still pretty relevant! As for The Height of Callousness and The Darker Side of Nonsense, they have plenty of cleans...

    november 2014
  • spineshank155

    v you could try Spineshank's The Height of Callousness or Dry Kill Logic's The Darker Side of Nonsense. They have some cleans for both albums but it's at a minimum. Spineshank probably has more cleans if i remember right.

    november 2014
  • alex011997

    I need a nu metal band with no clean vocals. Any suggestions? Write in my shoutbox, thanks in advance.

    november 2014
  • Motverkande

    "Nu Metal is generally too dissonant and heavy to be considered poppy. Metalheads generally don't enjoy it for the lyrical themes, the groove, the vocal style and the simple song structures." [2]

    november 2014
  • Trash73

    "Whars [sic] wrong with it?" People don't enjoy Nu Metal because the tone is a lot different than a lot different than your classic Hard Rock/Metal bands, and because of lack of solos. There are a few scattered throughout Nu Metal bands, but they are quite limited - Coal Chamber's - "My Mercy" is a good example, but there are solos in Mudvayne's "Fear", Static-X's "Cannibal", Limp Bizkit's "Shotgun", Slipknot's "Psychosocial" etc.) It also doesn't appeal to the Hair Metal/Metalcore crowd because of lack of poppy hooks, as found in bands such at Bullet For My Valentine, Straight Line Stitch, Motley Crue etc. Korn went a bit poppy later on, 2005-2007 especially, but that was tinged with a bit of Industrial and Funk. Nu Metal is generally too dissonant and heavy to be considered poppy. Metalheads generally don't enjoy it for the lyrical themes, the groove, the vocal style and the simple song structures (although many lesser known Nu Metal songs don't stick to formulaic song structure.)

    november 2014
  • al_solaris

    Oh lol why? Whars wrong with it?

    november 2014
  • Stormfisk

    http://www.metalsucks.net/2014/09/23/defense-nu-metal/

    oktober 2014
  • br34d-h34d

    deftones have 2 nu metal albums, i wouldnt put them in here

    september 2014
  • Narcassist

    butt rock

    september 2014
  • ilhammaulana

    worst shieeeeet ever happend to music [2]

    september 2014