Vegans

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• Cleptomanics skrev:
  december 2011

  Hey community, please support Kellie and Victor VanOrden (from Austin, Texas) who were arrested on October 10th, 2011 while allegedly trying to free mink from a mink ranch near Stone State Park in Iowa. http://supportkellieandvictor.blogspot.com and https://www.facebook.com/pages/Support-Kellie-Victor/113836865397165 Solidarity knows no borders!

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• claydoran skrev:
  november 2011

  captive bolt: new vegan punk band from Jacksonville FL. free download at http://captiveboltvegan.bandcamp.com

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• Eco-anarchist skrev:
  oktober 2011

  Siamo Tutti Antifascisti

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• Bluev2 skrev:
  oktober 2011

  Also through observation of the "live export rally" here in Australia it has also led to xenophobia and racism towards neighbouring countries. Welfarist easily drop the bomb in which they view other nations with poorer tracks of animal welfare as inferior to them but in fact the nation that they belong to is just as horrible as any other.

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• Bluev2 skrev:
  oktober 2011

  The whole concept of welfarism brings comfort and the false pretense of the term "humane". Take a look at the free-range egg industry it has become a more efficient way of producing eggs which led to more animals being used but still encapsulates a similar degree of horrendous practice to that of the non-free range variety. Yet people are flocking to free range under the false impression that what they are doing is okay and they are morally justified to consume them. Freerange came from welfarism and it has done nothing but promote animal usage.

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• Altruism skrev:
  augusti 2011

  While it does not seem realistic at the moment, there is no telling for sure what the future will hold. Though even if people would live on this planet as vegans there would still be suffering (albeit a lot less), that's a sad fact of life (and the way 'nature' dictates). Utopia would look a lot better still, almost inconceivable I guess. That said, not all petitions initiated in the interests of animals are crap and there isn't always a clear distinction in what one would consider as welfare, rights or liberation. Animal welfare legislation also isn't always necessarily in the way of an abolitionist approach, it may not help that cause per se but oftentimes it isn't exactly obstructing it either. But of course, sometimes it is. And then of course, there's different perspectives, for example - the long term interests of non-human animals as a whole (or rather, future lives of individual animals) or the dire needs of individual animals that suffer in the here and now.

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• Cleptomanics skrev:
  augusti 2011

  I guess I know what you mean. Sure, there will never be a vegan world. That's utopia - you're right. For me, I like to show a positive example of how to live a vegan lifestyle. I don't like to point boundaries how far people can go. If we promote veganism, those people who are concerned about the issue but not willing to go vegan yet will become vegetarians anyway. That is, we do not stop anyone from taking interim steps... The eight ours campaign hides the vegan option I think. Anyway, thanks a lot for keeping things alive :)

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• RapeMortality skrev:
  augusti 2011

  I think you just didn't get my intention. I don't support killing animals and I am aware of fact that diffrence between welfare and liberation exists. Of course it would be better if people didn't eat animals at all, but it's real world, not utopia. We can't save them all so we sholud just do our best in any possible way to give them at least better end.

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• Cleptomanics skrev:
  augusti 2011

  Stop Consuming Animals at all! I don't like this petition crap. There's a huge difference between animal welfare and animal liberation. Sorry this sounds so much in a know-it-all manner but this enrages me. Have a nice day :) www.vimeo.com/4808086

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• RapeMortality skrev:
  augusti 2011

  http://www.8hours.eu/ - help stop long animal transports in European Union

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• RapeMortality skrev:
  augusti 2011

  GO VEGAN!

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• FamousGardener skrev:
  juni 2011

  Hi!

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• JTLDN skrev:
  juni 2011

  Altruism: pure communism is anarchism and vice versa. it's the logical result of an end of involuntary hierarchies (including carnism, etc). no form of communism has ever existed. workers have NEVER controlled the means of production. at best only democratic socialism and social democracies have been achieved. most self-declared communist states are one-party state capitalist e.g china and it's 'CCCP'. the act of people labelling them communist is an often wilful and cynical perpetuation of smear and misinformation.

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• everydayidie skrev:
  maj 2011

  not totally? in texas? make me burger

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• Mr_laugh skrev:
  maj 2011

  To the person asking about veganisim, if you can't sustain yourself upon a vegan diet, Im an advocate of Ovolactate Vegetarianism. Im not totally vegan yet (live at home in texas, its kind of hard), but i totally plan on it.

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• Altruism skrev:
  maj 2011

  JLTDN: it has nothing to do with 'red scare' propaganda but with the likes of Mao Zedong, Lenin, Pol Pol, Kim Jong-il, Fidel Castro and so forth. Communism in practice has continuously led to totalitarian states and oppressive regime. The way I see it, communism can only be seen as an acceptable ideology if it is equated with (true) anarchism. And these just aren't the same, especially in the way they want to achieve things.

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• JTLDN skrev:
  maj 2011

  Neue_regel_: protein and zinc are just as easy to maintain with a vegan diet as an omnivorous one. legumes (chick peas, lentils, pinto beans, kidney beans, etc), nuts and grains are all sources which are healthier than animal products. the only alleged difficulty in a vegan diet is B12, but it can be found in many breakfast cereals, vegan milks and meat substitutes. B12 is made by bacteria, it's not a requirement that it comes from animal products. altruism: there's nothing wrong with communism. it doesn't intrinsically imply authoritarianism. that's a claim dishonestly repeated by 'red scare' propaganda. pure communism is stateless.

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• Altruism skrev:
  maj 2011

  @Neue_regel_ : if you honestly care about consuming only 'natural' foods then you should definately stay away from dairy and eggs because these are about as 'unnatural' as it gets. If you worry about soy you should know that (genetically modified) soy is mainly produced as fodder for farm animals that 'produce' meat, dairy and eggs. That said a vegan diet is perfectly possible without the use of soy. There are also vegans who have soy allergy. B12 is the only vitamin that cannot adequately by obtained from plant sources but B12 supplement aren't any more unnatural than dairy products are. It's not 'natural' (as in refering to what is common in nature among species of animals in relation to their food habits) to enslave animals, artificially inseminate female cows, take away their baby calves only moments after birth, milking them with machines and finally putting cow's milk on the market that was intended (by nature) for calves not grown-up adults from a different species (humans).

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• Altruism skrev:
  maj 2011

  @iheartmountains: if you identify yourself with nazism and fascism (as you do by joining their respective groups) you are basically saying that you are perfectly okay with the massive exploitation, abuse and murder of people based on their race, ethnicity and so forth. People do not choose their race nor do they harm another with, say, the color of their skin. It's people's actions that matter. And 'racialism' is just another scientific euphemism for racism. Anyway, seeing as people are animals too who can and do suffer this just isn't compatible with veganism. Veganism does go beyond not using products that came from non-human animals. And, for me at least, it's not at all about 'political correctness' but about the fact that people (of any race or whatever) too are sentient beings worthy of consideration (even though the vast majority of people knowingly and willing cause a lot of suffering themselves). BTW: I have the same issue with people who embrace communism.

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• Neue_regel_ skrev:
  maj 2011

  I am interested in becoming Vegan but I FAIL to see how I could possibly get Zinc, B12, essential Amino acids (e..g Tryptophan) and Highly potent animal Protein (.e.g Egg white or organic Dairy protein), in NATURAL forms (and not supplements.) Also, SOY products are out of the question for me, so I guess I'll remain an Omnivore for a while.

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