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- mll sa...
- Moderator
- 22 feb 2006, 10:53
Welcome

Hello, and welcome to this group.

Feel free to introduce yourself: what kind of TV non-user are you, TV-hater, TV-indiferent, TV-despiser, TV-ignorant (!) ? Has it always been so ?

How do people around you ?

How is it to live without TV ? Hard ? Easy ? A pleasure ?

What do you do of your time instead, given the average TV-owner spends hours per day in front of his TV ?

Check out some of my groups: TV-free | Musepackers of the world, unite !

Je suis modérateur pour lastfm.fr (la partie francophone).
I'm a moderator for lastfm.fr (french-speaking side of last.fm).

[quote][b][user]mll[/user][/b] sa: Hello, and welcome to this group. Feel free to introduce yourself: what kind of TV non-user are you, TV-hater, TV-indiferent, TV-despiser, TV-ignorant (!) ? Has it always been so ? How do people around you ? How is it to live without TV ? Hard ? Easy ? A pleasure ? What do you do of your time instead, given the average TV-owner spends hours per day in front of his TV ?[/quote]
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- gnarlyhotep sa...
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- 1 mar 2006, 21:00
Back when I was a kid...

(I'll try my best not to bore you) when I came home from school around 1975-1979, the afternoon was completely devoted to The Mickey Mouse Club, myself being the only viewer in our house. Later in the 80's, I watched every game show, sitcom, and sometimes even soap-operas. I can still recite 80's commercials with appalling accuracy. He-Man, Three's Company, Scooby Doo, I watched 'em all. I even used to be addicted to the early anime stuff (Battle of the Planets, Starblazers).
I'm 33 now, and haven't owned a TV in at least four years. I don't miss it a bit. My girlfriend watches the "reality" shows, and I've made my best attempt at it, but I just can't watch. About 15 minutes into it all I can do is think about excuses to leave and go do ANYTHING else. The phrase "fingernails on a chalkboard" comes to mind.
Rock on, TV-Free group! Read a book or something, America, you f'n idiots!

"Jazz is not dead, it just smells funny." -- Frank Zappa

[quote][b][user]gnarlyhotep[/user][/b] sa: (I'll try my best not to bore you) when I came home from school around 1975-1979, the afternoon was completely devoted to The Mickey Mouse Club, myself being the only viewer in our house. Later in the 80's, I watched every game show, sitcom, and sometimes even soap-operas. I can still recite 80's commercials with appalling accuracy. He-Man, Three's Company, Scooby Doo, I watched 'em all. I even used to be addicted to the early anime stuff (Battle of the Planets, Starblazers). I'm 33 now, and haven't owned a TV in at least four years. I don't miss it a bit. My girlfriend watches the "reality" shows, and I've made my best attempt at it, but I just can't watch. About 15 minutes into it all I can do is think about excuses to leave and go do ANYTHING else. The phrase "fingernails on a chalkboard" comes to mind. Rock on, TV-Free group! Read a book or something, America, you f'n idiots! [/quote]

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- mll sa...
- Moderator
- 1 mar 2006, 21:43
Wow, 2 members ! Welcome dudes !

BTW, I didn"t answer my own questions...

As a kid, I used to love watching TV. When I got brains and left home for studies, I started to realize the global level of mediocrity in it, and what a brainwashing the ads pump was (especially to kids).

Of course, there are exceptions, especially here in France, but I consider them gems in a crap ocean, so I really don't feel sorry. Even movies (which I love), I favour choosing when I watch them either in a theatre, or on my PC's DVD player.

Oh, and did I talk about the news on TV? So biaised and - I said it already - mediocre. I instead turn to public radios (no ads in France) which has high quality news broadcasts.

And whenever I have the opportunity to have a glance at it (relatives, hotel...), I am from more and more confident about my no-TV choice.

Some people sometimes watch us like aliens because of that; I enjoy this. :D

So bye bye TV ! Lots of free time gained. What do I do instead ?

- computer / web... :|
- going out / culture / friends
- read
- sleep.

I have kids, and they also don't even miss it. They don't beg us for Nike shoes and the latest cereals either, and keep a free mind (at least, more than teh average). Instead, they go more than the average kid to the movies I guess.

Check out some of my groups: TV-free | Musepackers of the world, unite !

Je suis modérateur pour lastfm.fr (la partie francophone).
I'm a moderator for lastfm.fr (french-speaking side of last.fm).

[quote][b][user]mll[/user][/b] sa: Wow, 2 members ! Welcome dudes ! BTW, I didn"t answer my own questions... As a kid, I used to love watching TV. When I got brains and left home for studies, I started to realize the global level of mediocrity in it, and what a brainwashing the ads pump was (especially to kids). Of course, there are exceptions, especially here in France, but I consider them gems in a crap ocean, so I really don't feel sorry. Even movies (which I love), I favour choosing when I watch them either in a theatre, or on my PC's DVD player. Oh, and did I talk about the news on TV? So biaised and - I said it already - mediocre. I instead turn to public radios (no ads in France) which has high quality news broadcasts. And whenever I have the opportunity to have a glance at it (relatives, hotel...), I am from more and more confident about my no-TV choice. Some people sometimes watch us like aliens because of that; I enjoy this. :D So bye bye TV ! Lots of free time gained. What do I do instead ? - computer / web... :| - going out / culture / friends - read - sleep. I have kids, and they also don't even miss it. They don't beg us for Nike shoes and the latest cereals either, and keep a free mind (at least, more than teh average). Instead, they go more than the average kid to the movies I guess.[/quote]

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- kenalien sa...
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- 2 mar 2006, 00:31
I don't really watch TV. I like/love it when I do, but recently TV watching has become less important/interesting, and shows I really want to watch are acquirable.

A few years ago I would've watched lord knows how many hours worth of TV, just for the sake of watching. I don't think I could live without it forever, I just find myself watching less and less. I do more exercise/sport/socialising now. Missing a TV show is no longer a big issue. It's been this way for a few years now though, not a sudden revelation.

I'm still relatively young though, as I get older I'll probably watch a more, but not right now especially with so much school work.

Life get! 1UP

[quote][b][user]kenalien[/user][/b] sa: I don't really watch TV. I like/love it when I do, but recently TV watching has become less important/interesting, and shows I really want to watch are acquirable. A few years ago I would've watched lord knows how many hours worth of TV, just for the sake of watching. I don't think I could live without it forever, I just find myself watching less and less. I do more exercise/sport/socialising now. Missing a TV show is no longer a big issue. It's been this way for a few years now though, not a sudden revelation. I'm still relatively young though, as I get older I'll probably watch a more, but not right now especially with so much school work. [/quote]

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- gnarlyhotep sa...
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- 5 mar 2006, 01:58
"gems in a crap ocean"

I'd say that about sums it up. Can I quote you on that, mll? :-)

"Jazz is not dead, it just smells funny." -- Frank Zappa

[quote][b][user]gnarlyhotep[/user][/b] sa: I'd say that about sums it up. Can I quote you on that, mll? :-)[/quote]

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- mll sa...
- Moderator
- 5 mar 2006, 20:58
$100 / quotation. Cheap price ;)

Check out some of my groups: TV-free | Musepackers of the world, unite !

Je suis modérateur pour lastfm.fr (la partie francophone).
I'm a moderator for lastfm.fr (french-speaking side of last.fm).

[quote][b][user]mll[/user][/b] sa: $100 / quotation. Cheap price ;)[/quote]

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- ThArGos sa...
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- 29 mar 2006, 08:46
I don't have TV anymore. It's been 3 years now and I don't miss it at all. Sometimes I don't understand what people are talking about but, it doesn't affect me that much.
I agree with mll on the fact that there are some good things lost in an ocean of crap on French TV. But these things are mostly findable elsewhere.

This makes me think about my new interest for the wikipedia. I was thinking about documentaries on TV and, well, an alternative to them is for example the www.wikipedia.org site =)
There are so many things to grab on this place =) I try not to become addicted to it heh :)

[quote][b][user]ThArGos[/user][/b] sa: I don't have TV anymore. It's been 3 years now and I don't miss it at all. Sometimes I don't understand what people are talking about but, it doesn't affect me that much. I agree with mll on the fact that there are some good things lost in an ocean of crap on French TV. But these things are mostly findable elsewhere. This makes me think about my new interest for the wikipedia. I was thinking about documentaries on TV and, well, an alternative to them is for example the www.wikipedia.org site =) There are so many things to grab on this place =) I try not to become addicted to it heh :)[/quote]

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- gnarlyhotep sa...
- Abonnent
- 29 mar 2006, 19:38
I know what you mean.

I'm trying not to get addicted, myself. My description of the Internet is "the place from which the blessings of all good things flow". It's not technical, but it sums things up for me.

"Jazz is not dead, it just smells funny." -- Frank Zappa

[quote][b][user]gnarlyhotep[/user][/b] sa: I'm trying not to get addicted, myself. My description of the Internet is "the place from which the blessings of all good things flow". It's not technical, but it sums things up for me.[/quote]

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- mll sa...
- Moderator
- 30 mar 2006, 05:45
Yeah I agree, but I for one have to take care of the addiction...

P.S.: welcome ThArGos, you're everywhere ! :)

Check out some of my groups: TV-free | Musepackers of the world, unite !

Je suis modérateur pour lastfm.fr (la partie francophone).
I'm a moderator for lastfm.fr (french-speaking side of last.fm).

[quote][b][user]mll[/user][/b] sa: Yeah I agree, but I for one have to take care of the addiction... P.S.: welcome ThArGos, you're everywhere ! :)[/quote]

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- ThArGos sa...
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- 30 mar 2006, 10:16
hehe I must admit I've followed you a bit, well no, I looked at your groups and some of them pleased me ;)

[quote][b][user]ThArGos[/user][/b] sa: hehe I must admit I've followed you a bit, well no, I looked at your groups and some of them pleased me ;)[/quote]

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- raw_u sa...
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- 26 apr 2006, 22:51
I didn't have a tv for about 10 years since I left home and moved on my own. Then I got a small one, and noticed that we actually have quite good public service channel in Finland. But I've been living in and out of Finland ever since, so I don't really have a tv right now.

I have to confess I miss it. I miss the brainless fun, when you come home too tired to do anything intelligent or active. Now I'd have to go to movies... and then I'd pick a good film, and have to leave home etc... I miss documentaries and news too. I never stop wondering on how amazing place our planet is. All different ecosystems, cultures etc.

To substitute tv, I do spend a little bit too much time on the web, and am gonna start make myself limits with it.

I've heard the finnish indie-pop-electro group TV-resistori is good.

[quote][b][user]raw_u[/user][/b] sa: I didn't have a tv for about 10 years since I left home and moved on my own. Then I got a small one, and noticed that we actually have quite good public service channel in Finland. But I've been living in and out of Finland ever since, so I don't really have a tv right now. I have to confess I miss it. I miss the brainless fun, when you come home too tired to do anything intelligent or active. Now I'd have to go to movies... and then I'd pick a good film, and have to leave home etc... I miss documentaries and news too. I never stop wondering on how amazing place our planet is. All different ecosystems, cultures etc. To substitute tv, I do spend a little bit too much time on the web, and am gonna start make myself limits with it. I've heard the finnish indie-pop-electro group TV-resistori is good. [/quote]

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- nickit sa...
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- 7 jul 2006, 09:25
*in the club of the anonymous tv-addicts*

Hello, my name is Nick and it has been around seven months now that I have watched almost no television! I am feeling so much happier now! My life has also become easier, less stressful and now I have a lot more time to spend! Before, there were many things that I just could not find the time to get done. But now, as I ceased watching television I can find time for everything! This is sooo cool!!! I am so happy now…

:p

Where is my mind?
my socks dont match :)

[quote][b][user]nickit[/user][/b] sa: Hello, my name is Nick and it has been around seven months now that I have watched [i]almost no[/i] television! I am feeling so much happier now! My life has also become easier, less stressful and now I have a lot more time to spend! Before, there were many things that I just could not find the time to get done. But now, as I ceased watching television I can find time for everything! This is sooo cool!!! I am so happy now… :p[/quote]

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- mll sa...
- Moderator
- 7 jul 2006, 13:33
Welcome nickit. You're everywhere ! :) Welcome raw_u too.

Check out some of my groups: TV-free | Musepackers of the world, unite !

Je suis modérateur pour lastfm.fr (la partie francophone).
I'm a moderator for lastfm.fr (french-speaking side of last.fm).

[quote][b][user]mll[/user][/b] sa: Welcome nickit. You're everywhere ! :) Welcome raw_u too.[/quote]

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- abi_ sa...
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- 20 jul 2006, 14:25
hi,

i dont own a TV anymore, i gave it away to a friend about
2 years ago or something. So i dont't watch TV at home, just
rarely when beeing at friends.

[quote][b][user]abi_[/user][/b] sa: hi, i dont own a TV anymore, i gave it away to a friend about 2 years ago or something. So i dont't watch TV at home, just rarely when beeing at friends.[/quote]

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- [Raderad användare] sa...
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- 22 aug 2006, 09:15
I hate television. A lot of stupid comercial hits, idiotic reality shows and other shit and I don't have time for that.

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] sa: I hate television. A lot of stupid comercial hits, idiotic reality shows and other shit and I don't have time for that.[/quote]

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- mll sa...
- Moderator
- 22 aug 2006, 12:34
abi_, maciux: welcome ! :) Thanks for your introduction.

Check out some of my groups: TV-free | Musepackers of the world, unite !

Je suis modérateur pour lastfm.fr (la partie francophone).
I'm a moderator for lastfm.fr (french-speaking side of last.fm).

[quote][b][user]mll[/user][/b] sa: abi_, maciux: welcome ! :) Thanks for your introduction.[/quote]

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- raw_u sa...
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- 24 aug 2006, 21:42
I must leave soon, I will have a tv again next week. :´(

You keep it up!

[quote][b][user]raw_u[/user][/b] sa: I must leave soon, I will have a tv again next week. :´( You keep it up![/quote]

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- mll sa...
- Moderator
- 25 aug 2006, 06:21
Farewell... Be strong ! :)

Check out some of my groups: TV-free | Musepackers of the world, unite !

Je suis modérateur pour lastfm.fr (la partie francophone).
I'm a moderator for lastfm.fr (french-speaking side of last.fm).

[quote][b][user]mll[/user][/b] sa: Farewell... Be strong ! :)[/quote]

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- [Raderad användare] sa...
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- 31 aug 2006, 22:45
Hi there!

Oh, well. This is my introduction-story. (Hope I won't bore you too much. I swear there will be some useful information somewhere in the post.)

Around 2004, a radio presenter recommended this site, I can't remember why. Anyway, I was intrigued, and typed the url right away.

On the main page there was a huge banner promoting some TV Turnoff Campaign I haven't heard about before. One click, and I was forever hooked with the "No more TV" idea / way of life.

I was so much curious about the subject that followed every "External Link" on the page, being the best of them all Turn off your TV.

After a few hours of reading, I made my decision: I wouldn't watch more TV than what I needed to watch.

"I won't stop watching Lost or ER. I mean, I just can't. And I could certainly use the weekly International News Report on my National TV Channel- which, by the way, beats CNN's ass in quality and accuracy of the information they provide. But I will definetly cut off my brain-numbing zapping hours. And I will watch a movie in cable whenever I feel like it, and only if the channel doesn't cut the movie with ads"

I also made my parents conscious of the benefits of consuming less amount of (idiotic) programmes -or even the news- during lunchtime, which would make us talk more to each other and unite us as a family.

Now, my family and I have much more time to spend listening to music -or playing, as my dad plays the violin/piano more often now. We also read more, talk more, enjoy our days more...

I'm proud of being a TV-free girl now. I regret all those childhood years I spent in front of that box, instead of going out with friends. (I also regret having friends that would rather stay home and watch our local Big Brother version than party!)

That's all for now.

See you!

-w§-

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Links for the lazy ones:

I'd suggest our leader mll to add this links to the group description. Who's with me?

Must-browse sites:

-TV Turnoff Campaign (Adbusters.org)

-Turn off your TV

-Throw away your TV

Must-watch movie:

Network (It's pretty old, but it's really worth it. You'll find it through p2p. I'm sharing. *wink)

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] sa: Hi there! Oh, well. This is my introduction-story. (Hope I won't bore you too much. I swear there will be some useful information somewhere in the post.) Around 2004, a radio presenter recommended [url=http://www.adbusters.org]this site[/url], I can't remember why. Anyway, I was intrigued, and typed the url right away. On the main page there was a huge banner promoting some [url=http://www.adbusters.org/metas/psycho/tvturnoff/]TV Turnoff Campaign[/url] I haven't heard about before. One click, and I was forever hooked with the "No more TV" idea / way of life. I was so much curious about the subject that followed every "External Link" on the page, being the best of them all [url=http://www.turnoffyourtv.com/]Turn off your TV[/url]. After a few hours of reading, I made my decision: I wouldn't watch more TV than what I [i]needed[/i] to watch. "I won't stop watching Lost or ER. I mean, I just can't. And I could certainly use the weekly International News Report on my National TV Channel- which, by the way, beats CNN's ass in quality and accuracy of the information they provide. But I will definetly cut off my brain-numbing zapping hours. And I will watch a movie in cable whenever [b]I[/b] feel like it, and only if the channel doesn't cut the movie with ads" I also made my parents conscious of the benefits of consuming less amount of (idiotic) programmes -or even the news- during lunchtime, which would make us talk more to each other and unite us as a family. Now, my family and I have much more time to spend listening to music -or playing, as my dad plays the violin/piano more often now. We also read more, talk more, enjoy our days more... I'm proud of being a TV-free girl now. I regret all those childhood years I spent in front of that box, instead of going out with friends. (I also regret having friends that would rather stay home and watch our local Big Brother version than party!) That's all for now. See you! -w§- --------------- [b]Links for the lazy ones:[/b] [size=9]I'd suggest our leader [user]mll[/user] to add this links to the group description. Who's with me?[/size] [b]Must-browse sites:[/b] -[url=http://www.adbusters.org/metas/psycho/tvturnoff/]TV Turnoff Campaign (Adbusters.org)[/url] -[color=#FF0000][url=http://www.turnoffyourtv.com/]Turn off your TV[/url][/color] -[url=http://www.throwawayyourtv.com/]Throw away your TV[/url] [b]Must-watch movie:[/b] [color=#FF0000][url=http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074958/]Network[/url][/color] (It's pretty old, but [url=http://www.turnoffyourtv.com/reviews/networkreview.html]it's really worth it[/url]. You'll find it through p2p. I'm sharing. *wink) [/quote]

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- mll sa...
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- 1 sep 2006, 05:33
Hello wittysuckss, and welcome to this group ! :)

Thanks a lot for this fine story, and yes the fine links definitely deserve to be in the group's description. Fell free also to check one of your journal entries on this group one day, if it's "TV-free"-related. :)

I also found pretty nice other avatar ideas at http://www.turnoffyourtv.com/...

Check out some of my groups: TV-free | Musepackers of the world, unite !

Je suis modérateur pour lastfm.fr (la partie francophone).
I'm a moderator for lastfm.fr (french-speaking side of last.fm).

[quote][b][user]mll[/user][/b] sa: Hello wittysuckss, and welcome to this group ! :) Thanks a lot for this fine story, and yes the fine links definitely deserve to be in the group's description. Fell free also to check one of your journal entries on this group one day, if it's "TV-free"-related. :) I also found pretty nice other avatar ideas at [url]http://www.turnoffyourtv.com/[/url]...[/quote]

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- raw_u sa...
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- 10 sep 2006, 19:43
Gosh

I got back to my old life with tv. Sorry, gotta leave the group.

I don't watch much though - maybe I'll be back in a year as they change the whole analog system to digital tv and I suppose I should buy a digibox or something to make my old analog tv-set work. I don't think it's worth it. We'll see...

[quote][b][user]raw_u[/user][/b] sa: I got back to my old life with tv. Sorry, gotta leave the group. I don't watch much though - maybe I'll be back in a year as they change the whole analog system to digital tv and I suppose I should buy a digibox or something to make my old analog tv-set work. I don't think it's worth it. We'll see... [/quote]

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- mll sa...
- Moderator
- 10 sep 2006, 19:56
raw_u said:
I got back to my old life with tv. Sorry, gotta leave the group.
Farewell, raw_u. Only be stronger than it. :)

Hope to see you back soon. :)

Check out some of my groups: TV-free | Musepackers of the world, unite !

Je suis modérateur pour lastfm.fr (la partie francophone).
I'm a moderator for lastfm.fr (french-speaking side of last.fm).

[quote][b][user]mll[/user][/b] sa: [quote][b][user]raw_u[/user][/b] said: I got back to my old life with tv. Sorry, gotta leave the group.[/quote] Farewell, raw_u. Only be stronger than it. :) Hope to see you back soon. :)[/quote]

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- dr_kyle sa...
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- 1 dec 2006, 20:02
Almost TV-free for the last six out of eighteen years of my existence. It's more out of circumstances rather than a choice, but still I'm happy it's out of my life.

Stopped TV since I was 11, when I lived in communal quarters with one shared TV. Since they watch programs I didn't like, I just stopped watching. I'm not that assertive. Until now, I don't have TV at my shared flat.

Now I watch TV only when something really, really interesting comes up. I don't watch most those crappy shows (even if we have cable TV at home).

The only drawback is that when people talk about those damn talent search/reality game shows or stupid commercials, the Great Wall of China springs up right in front of me :(.

They say that we use only 10% of our brains.
I say that the remaining 90% is for common sense.

[quote][b][user]dr_kyle[/user][/b] sa: Almost TV-free for the last six out of eighteen years of my existence. It's more out of circumstances rather than a choice, but still I'm happy it's out of my life. Stopped TV since I was 11, when I lived in communal quarters with one shared TV. Since they watch programs I didn't like, I just stopped watching. I'm not that assertive. Until now, I don't have TV at my shared flat. Now I watch TV only when something really, really interesting comes up. I don't watch most those crappy shows (even if we have cable TV at home). The only drawback is that when people talk about those damn talent search/reality game shows or stupid commercials, the Great Wall of China springs up right in front of me :(.[/quote]

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- [Raderad användare] sa...
- Användare
- 2 apr 2007, 01:54
hi,

I live without a TV, sometimes i don't like it, sometimes i hate television...

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] sa: hi, I live without a TV, sometimes i don't like it, sometimes i hate television...[/quote]

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- gnarlyhotep sa...
- Abonnent
- 18 apr 2007, 02:41
WoW!

I'm so excited to see so many people who realize what a waste of time TV is. Turn that stereo on and crank up the jams!!

"Jazz is not dead, it just smells funny." -- Frank Zappa

[quote][b][user]gnarlyhotep[/user][/b] sa: I'm so excited to see so many people who realize what a waste of time TV is. Turn that stereo on and crank up the jams!![/quote]

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