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    • 3 jan 2005, 13:10

    Hospital food fight: To offer fast food or not

    From CNN.com

    CLEVELAND, Ohio (AP) -- Andrew Hudnall stared at his lunch and agonized about whether his doctor might be unhappy with him.

    The 57-year-old heart patient had just bought a chicken sandwich from McDonald's -- in the food court of the Cleveland Clinic, renowned for its research into heart disease.

    "People are here for heart problems, including me. I get in here, and this is tempting," said Hudnall, who was in a hurry and didn't want to fight the crowd at other restaurants or the clinic cafeteria.

    Even so, he said he agrees with efforts by the clinic's leading doctors to get some fast-food franchises out of the building. Pizza Hut has already left. Nine others remain, including McDonald's and Subway.

    At a time when two-thirds of American adults are overweight or obese, putting their hearts and arteries at grave risk, health officials and physicians are urging people to be watch their weight and eat healthier.

    Having french fries at a leading center for treating heart disease sends the wrong message, officials of the Cleveland Clinic believe.

    "We are hoping we are setting some kind of a trend ... about wellness," said Angela Calman, Cleveland Clinic spokeswoman. "We're not singling out McDonald's. We're looking at every vendor on campus and asking if this represents what we are trying to present to our patients."

    The Cleveland Clinic's patients have included royalty and leaders of foreign countries, and some of the nation's most prominent heart researchers and surgeons work there. Its heart center sees more than 205,000 patients a year and performs thousands of heart procedures annually, including more than 3,800 heart operations.

    Representatives of the clinic and McDonald's met recently to try to work out a compromise. Neither side will discuss details, saying only they plan to meet again soon.

    Nationwide, there does not seem to be much of a trend toward ejecting fast-food companies from hospitals.

    "We are in about 36 hospitals right now and have been for quite some time," said Ken Barun, McDonald's Corp. senior vice president who oversees the company's "balanced lifestyle initiative," which promotes healthy food choices and physical fitness.

    The head of the American Association for Health Care Service Administrators said she is unaware of any other hospitals following Cleveland Clinic's lead.

    "It becomes a philosophical question that has to be answered in every hospital. Do we serve healthy foods because we're in a health care facility, or do we serve what the customers are interested in having?" said Joyce Hagen-Flint, president of the AAHCSA. "There are hospitals all over the country that have fast food outlets."

    It's not uncommon for hospitals to earn money by leasing space to food court companies or restaurants. The clinic would not comment on details of its leases, including how much money it might lose if McDonald's leaves. The franchise serves 12,000 people annually.

    McDonald's has served up Big Macs and fries at the hospital for a decade, and has 10 years left on its lease.

    The hospital's cafeteria is going through its own menu makeover.

    Citing the continuing negotiations with McDonald's, Cleveland Clinic officials rejected requests for interviews.

    The clinic's chief executive, Toby Cosgrove, has said the hospital is trying to pay more attention to the food choices it offers. He told the Washington Post recently that McDonald's is "symbolic as much as anything else. It is not associated with heart-healthy food; neither is Pizza Hut."

    Barun, the McDonald's executive, said he met with clinic officials in June 2003 and at the time believed they were comfortable with the corporation's commitment to community service and determination to add foods such as salads and low fat yogurt to the menu.

    "We take this issue very seriously," he said. "Our role, when we saw this as an emerging issue, was to become part of the solution." One solution, he said, is an adult "Happy Meal" offered at some locations featuring a salad and a pedometer.

  • ew. fast food sucks

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    • jonnie5 sa...
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    • 4 jan 2005, 03:41
    Fast food might suck, but it's a hell of a lot better than hospital food. I'm all for having more fastfood places in hospitals, I'm sick of visiting my mom in the hospital and having to eat her shitty, cold meatloaf because I'm hungry and broke and she doesn't want it. I'm also sick of having to bring in food for her... it's draining my wallet.

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    Redigerad av jonnie5 den 4 jan 2005, 03:42
  • Re:

    Quoth molarbear:
    ew. fast food sucks



    HEAR HEAR!!!

    EVERYBODY must watch that movie called "supersize me"

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    • jonnie5 sa...
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    • 5 jan 2005, 03:56
    Bet none of you even tasted hospital food before...

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    Quoth tangmonster:
    Quoth molarbear:
    ew. fast food sucks



    HEAR HEAR!!!

    EVERYBODY must watch that movie called "supersize me"

    That movie actually made me hungry. I hadn't eaten at McDonald's in years, but I went out the next day and got a Big Mac extra value meal. Hot damn.

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    • 5 jan 2005, 04:46
    Rather have me a big mac and fries than hospital green mush on a dirty plate. Some kids are just spoiled and don't know what kind shit food is out there. The difference between hospital food and fast food is that people actually pay for fast food. Logically that means its better. Duh.

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    Quoth jonnie5:
    people actually pay for fast food. Logically that means its better. Duh.


    uhh...

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  • It's not about how it tastes it's about the stuff inside. Sow what if it's a bit tasteless. EAT IT AND GET BETTER!!!

    TOO much sugar and CRAP in take away's

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    • 6 jan 2005, 02:24

    Re: Re:

    Quoth molarbear:
    Quoth jonnie5:
    people actually pay for fast food. Logically that means its better. Duh.


    uhh...

    I never saw Russians lining up around a Hospital to get their food.

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    • 6 jan 2005, 05:58
    Well ive also never seen Russians lining up around the street for a grand opening of Mcdonalds...

  • Re: Re: Re:

    Quoth jonnie5:
    people actually pay for fast food. Logically that means its better. Duh.


    so just because people pay money for something automatically makes it good?

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  • They can just as well sell booze at a hospital then.

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    • 7 jan 2005, 03:00

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    Quoth Zuggalo:
    Well ive also never seen Russians lining up around the street for a grand opening of Mcdonalds...

    You're pop culturally inept.

    http://www.incredible-adventures.com/graphics/mcdonalds.jpg

    Those commies LINED UP FOR MILES after the Berlin wall fell for some Mickey D's. It was like... part of the whole American propaganda of "see how much communism sucked? THEY DIDN'T EVEN HAVE MCDONALD'S!"

    Quoth molarbear:
    so just because people pay money for something automatically makes it good?

    Yes, ever hear of supply and demand? Some people...

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    Redigerad av jonnie5 den 7 jan 2005, 03:02
  • i guess smoking is good for you then?

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    • jonnie5 sa...
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    • 7 jan 2005, 03:03
    I didn't (nor did you) say it anything about it being good for you. I said it made it good. It tastes better. Therefore, it's good. Very sendomly do people refer to food as just "good" when they mean it is "good for them" Usually "good tasting food" and "good for you food" are completely different statements.

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    Redigerad av jonnie5 den 7 jan 2005, 03:04
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    • 7 jan 2005, 03:05

    Re:

    Quoth jonnie5:
    I didn't (nor did you) say it anything about it being good for you. I said it made it good. It tastes better. Therefore, it's good. Very sendomly do people refer to food as just "good" when they mean it is "good for them" Usually "good tasting food" and "good for you food" are completely different statements.


    That's just it, though... McDonald's tastes like crap. People pay money to see shit movies and listen to shit music. Supply and demand have VERY little to do with quality of product.

    • jonnie5 sa...
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    • 7 jan 2005, 03:08
    No, hospital food tastes like crap, you're just spoiled. Not all of us can afford lobster or whatever.

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  • k , well you just said "good" and didnt specify.

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    • 7 jan 2005, 03:10

    Re:

    Quoth jonnie5:
    No, hospital food tastes like crap, you're just spoiled. Not all of us can afford lobster or whatever.


    No one said anything about lobster. McDonald's tastes like crap. Hospital food tastes like crap. They may as well eat the food that's better for them, while they're eating shitty food.

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    Quoth killdXm:
    Quoth jonnie5:
    No, hospital food tastes like crap, you're just spoiled. Not all of us can afford lobster or whatever.


    No one said anything about lobster. McDonald's tastes like crap. Hospital food tastes like crap. They may as well eat the food that's better for them, while they're eating shitty food.


    agreed

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    • jonnie5 sa...
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    • 7 jan 2005, 03:25
    Haha, yeah, wait 'til your ass gets sick and you're eating the same shit everyday for 4 weeks until your death. You people are sick. Let the people who are feeling the worst in society have something. I feel sorry for people in the hospital, they're taken away from their families, they sit in a bed all day, and some are on the verge of death. All they have is TV and food. Why don't you take away their televisions too because the rays are bad for their eyes? Then it'll be even more like prison. Seriously, have a little compassion, if a hospital patient wants mcdonalds, let them have the option. If they know it'll kill them, that's their own prerogative. You're the type of people who try to outlaw booze and cigarettes because they're bad for you. And support drug laws. It's lame, I'm sick of people using their opinions to control other's lives.

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    Redigerad av jonnie5 den 7 jan 2005, 03:25
  • if they want to get out of the hospital sooner they shouldnt eat crap :)

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    • 7 jan 2005, 03:37

    Re:

    Quoth molarbear:
    if they want to get out of the hospital sooner they shouldnt eat crap :)


    agreed. now let him give one more rant, and just ignore him, as this could go on for hours.

  • okay, he can have one more

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